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HARDtalk: Rutger Bregman

Series 194, episode 0

In times of crisis, we learn about who we really are, and so it is that the global coronavirus pandemic is revealing truths about humankind and how we balance self and collective interest. Stephen Sackur speaks to writer and historian Rutger Bregman whose book Humankind: A Hopeful History is making waves around the world. Do we humans massively underestimate our capacity to change things for the better? First shown on the BBC News Channel on Wednesday 27 May.